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HYDROCODONE/VICODIN
« on: July 12, 2007, 11:23:56 PM »

Not much info about this, but most of us no what it is, a  low grade pain killer.

LAW

U.S. FEDERAL LEGAL SUMMARY
Hydrocodone
REGULATED
Yes

STATUS
Scheduled

SCHEDULE
Schedule II / III

CLASSIFICATION
   
Opiate

Pure hydrocodone and dihydrocodeine or products which contain more than 15mg per dosage unit are Schedule II in the United States. This means they are illegal to sell without a DEA license and illegal to buy or possess without a license or prescription.

Products which contain less than 15 mg hydrocodone per dosage unit are Schedule III in the United States. Almost all prescriptions hydrocodone is prescribed in Schedule III dose units (Vicodin).

Schedule II drug prescriptions may only be refilled with a written prescription, Schedule III pharmaceuticals may be refilled using phoned prescription (Thanks Dr J Moses).

EFFECTS
POSITIVE

    * improvement of mood
    * reduction of pain
    * euphoria
    * Talkativeness
    * Giddy 

NEUTRAL

    * itching
    * light-headedness
    * sedation
    * changes in focus and attention

NEGATIVE

    * dizziness
    * constipation
    * nausea and vomiting
    * when insufflated, burning in nose and sinuses

I have done vicodin a couple of times. Its not bad, makes you feel extremely good and a sense of well being. Just make sure you don't take ones with
ACETAMINOPHEN. This can be toxic to the liver in high doses. Use a preperation that will take out the tylenol,

COLD WATER EXTRACTION:

    You can extract Codeine, hydrocodone, Oxycodone etc. almost any Rx narcotic with water as because they are soluable in water.
Cold water extraction works well.


Below is an example of a codeine extraction.
The idea behind the following extraction is that
acetaminophen and aspirin (I'll use A/A from now on) are very
_insoluble_ in cold water. Codeine phosphate (the most common
salt of codeine) is very _soluble_ in water including cold water.
The following table explains:

Solubility (31C water) Solubility (21C water)

Aspirin 1g / 100 ml 1g / 300ml

Acetaminophen 1g / 70 ml 1g / 150 ml

Codeine 1g / 2.3 ml 1g / 0.7 ml
Phosphate

So as you can see, both A/A aren't very soluble in 21C
water, so if you cool the water to around 10C, the solubility will
drop even further. That way you can dissolve 20 tablets in 50ml
of hot water, cool the water down to 10C, filter the solution and
end up with the same amount of codeine as the tablets contained
but only a fraction of the original amount of A/A.

[...]

1. Obtain a quantity of tablets containing codeine, check to
see if they contain anything other than codeine, caffeine,
acetaminophen or aspirin. If they do, and you don't know whether
or not it will be a problem, your best bet is not to use them.
Measure out your desired amount of codeine (ex. 64 mg = 8 tablets
* 8mg/tablet). You may want to add 2 extra tablets as it is quite
likely you will lose some codeine in the procedure. As you get
more experience with the procedure you will be able to get
approx. 95% of the codeine extracted.

2. Measure out some nice hot water, use approx. 40ml / 20 tablets
or more if needed. I would suggest you don't go over 50ml for 20
tablets. I don't know if the use of boiling water would destroy
any of the codeine but your best bet is not to use it. Use hot
water but not boiling. Make sure the tablets dissolve completely.
Some dissolve on contact with water while others need some help
dissolving by crushing them. Note : not all of the tablet will
dissolve, there are water-insoluble fillers in the tablet and not
all of the A/A will dissolve either(which is what we want).

3. Place the solution in a cold bath, I just use some ice cubes
in a container of water. Stir the mixture occasionally until the
solution drops to about 15C or lower. You won't need a
thermometer to measure the temperature, just make sure it's
"cold". This will take about 30 min. If you wish to speed this
up, you can use less water to dissolve the tablets, and add ice
chips to cool the mixture faster. Just make sure you don't add
so much ice that you drastically increase the volume of the mixture.

4. Filter the solution using whatever you have. Coffee filters
work well, but lab filters work the best. Just make sure you
don't end up with obvious solids in the filtered solution. This
will take about 1 hr. You may also want to rinse the solids left
over in the filter with some ice-water to extract any remaining
codeine.

Side notes Pretty much anything that CAN be used IV is better if you shoot it. Snorting, on the other hand, in addition to being horrible for your sinuses, is wasteful, and just doesn't work as well. Why? Beats me. I'm only speaking from my own, and many others experience.

Don't use alot of water, use as little as possible. Codeine,hydrocodone, Oxycodone and morphine are all sensitive to heat and light. (Some more than others).
This method will work for oxycodone, but as a side note Percocet and most off-brands contain a relatively small amount of acetaminophen (about 350 mg or so) compared to the oxycodone (5 mg). Since oxycodone is very strong, 2 or 3 percs should have you feeling pretty darn good (as long as you don't have a huge tolerance). As a result, unless you are taking 10 or 15 percs per day, you needn't worry about acetaminophen ingestion.
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Re: HYDROCODONE/VICODIN
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 11:38:10 PM »

Oh yeah... Cold Water Extraction works really nice and it is very useful.

I was like pretty addicted to Codeine and I ran out of the syrup (T3) I was drinking. So I had a ton of codiene pills but they were the shitty #2 kind that have only like 15mg of Codeine but I think 300mg tylenol so if I took aroud 180mg Codiene I would be killing my liver. I used cold water extraction on a bunch and consumed the pure Codeine so I was safe.

Anyways, my friend had some Vicodin and I tried some and I think it's better than straight Codeine but it has more negative effects for me.
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Re: HYDROCODONE/VICODIN
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 01:44:03 AM »

nasty stuff is hydrocodine  preety sure you dont me hydrocodone


ive overdosed on this(suicide attempt) and parcetamol then again i had 4g of the stuff in my gut and 4g of paracetamol

so just be carefull. its nasty shit.
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